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BarneyMo

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Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 09:50
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The flashing lights that you either have on the front of your bike or on your forehead (heaven knows why)

Are they proven to provide more protection than the standard static lights?

I ask because I seem to be seeing more and more of these kind of lights.

In dark areas at this time of year, I can not believe that it is safer to have a flashing light as opposed to a static one.

Any comments?
knackeredmum

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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 10:07   in response to: BarneyMo in response to: BarneyMo
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It used to be illegal to use these without haveing a fixed beam light but I think the law has changed. I hate them they are very distracting to drivers.I think te main difference is that these were the first kind of LED's and cyclists just choose to have them flashing all the time. Like I say I think they are dangerous
Tina


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 10:16   in response to: BarneyMo in response to: BarneyMo
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I agree with "Knackeredmum" as a driver i find these VERY distracting indeed. You vision is drawn to them and concentration compromised.

When i was a wee cyclist, these were illegal and rightly so i feel too.
LED's are the lighting source of the future .. but flashing an absurd way to use lights, LED or otherwise.
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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 11:45   in response to: BarneyMo in response to: BarneyMo
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BarneyMo wrote: . . . I can not believe that it is safer to have a flashing light as opposed to a static one.

knackeredmum wrote: . . . Like I say I think they are dangerous.

Tina wrote: . . . You vision is drawn to them and concentration compromised.

I'm not a "Proper" cyclist, but I do cycle sometimes, as well as riding a Motorcycle, and I'm a Car Driver.

Those flashing lights are now quite legal, but they didn't used to be. It was found that vehicle drivers didn't notice the small, often dimly-lit standard lights, and statistics show many accidents were caused, both from front and rear, so the law was changed to allow flashing lights.

The fact that the three of you notice them prove that they work, and that people do notice them. I do not see how your concentration can be compromised if you are a competent driver, as you take notice of the lights, think "bike", and carry on driving hopefully safely. I drive a lot after dark, and it's very rare bicycle lights bother me. It's generally some very bright headlamps on some modern vehicles that tend to be a little over-the-top.

Bicycle lights on well-lit roads are not used to see where you are riding. They are only used to let other people know they your there. They are used and worn for self-preservation by cyclists. After all they do not have a wall of steel around them or air-bags, so are very vulnerable to even low-speed prangs.

I personally ride after dark with large-diameter fixed lights, which are bright, but after a close rear-end "incident" in town, I'm gonna buy an extra flashing one for the rear as well. Like many Motorcyclists already know, a lot of vehicle drivers do not look out for bicycles or motorcycles, and will pull out in front of them, without looking properly.
GingerRog


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 14:47   in response to: BarneyMo in response to: BarneyMo
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I saw one of these flashing red lights this morning on the back of a cycle. It did attract my attention because the light was flashing and there was no sign of the cyclist! He must have left his light on when he went into the shop.

I do agree with Mike B that some car headlights are really dazzling especially on country roads.
knackeredmum

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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 15:55   in response to: Guest in response to: Guest
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Mike. May I suggest attaching one of those torches which give the light of 3 million candles!

I did know a motorcyclist that fitted air horns to his bike hee hee...!
GingerRog


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 16:00   in response to: knackeredmum in response to: knackeredmum
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Have a look in your Forum Inbox!

Sorry, nothing to do with cyclists BarneyMo!
GingerRog


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 20:16   in response to: Guest in response to: Guest
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Mike ~ do you remember me saying somewhere about a very narrow "bit" of path for cyclists on the Road. The name of the road is Bridge Road, BS5. Do you have a map you can look at and you can see what I mean.
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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 20:42   in response to: GingerRog in response to: GingerRog
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I guess this is where you mean if this following links works. I can see the path, but I might need to edit this message a couple of times to get the link working properly. Good ol BEP forums software in action yet again.

Anyway it's at http://tinyurl.com/3sb7vf
GingerRog


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 19-Dec-2008 20:56   in response to: Guest in response to: Guest
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Yes, the link worked! That's the road too. It looks longer on the map! The cycling bit looks wider than it actually is! The cycle bit stops about half way up down the road. It is a one way street, I think. The other side of the road has a sign which indicates the use of another cycle bit ~ but there is none!
knackeredmum

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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 20-Dec-2008 10:36   in response to: GingerRog in response to: GingerRog
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Cycle lanes are crap! They start and stop in the middle of a road and are only usually on one side. They seem to take turns one bit is on the left...then the right...then the left.... These lanes are not to benefit cyclists they are so councils can say they are doing something to help cycling and they cost next to nothing. All they really do is narrow roads (added bonus for the council).
Proper cycle paths where possible please.

If councils are serious about encouraging cycling they need to make it safer and more accessable to families (get 'em young!). There is no way I'd let my children use their bikes in a cycle lane. Especially one that stops halfway up a road. They are far too dangerous (roads and cycle lanes NOT children...). What if my 5 year old falls off his bike in front of a (legally travelling!!) car? can I sue the council???
GingerRog


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 20-Dec-2008 12:49   in response to: knackeredmum in response to: knackeredmum
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I don't quite know who dreamt up this particular one but there are loads about! Pretty dangerous in some cases and when the cycle bit stops where there is a side turning to the left because cyclists do not always stop! They have the momentum going .....
Pelikan

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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 10-Sep-2009 15:27   in response to: Tina in response to: Tina
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The purpose of the flashing light is to be seen. Static lights tend to be more for seeing with. Either way, its good that you are seeing them which means you are aware that there is a cyclist about...

As a cyclist, I use a combination.

Edited by: Pelikan on 10.09.2009 15:27
Imo


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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 12-Sep-2009 19:15   in response to: knackeredmum in response to: knackeredmum
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The batteries work longer if the light is just flashing and not permanently shining. I think for that reason they switch on the flicker modus. The lamps work also with a fixed beam, as much as I know.

But I think too they're very annoying.
PRCS

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Re: Question for Cyclists
Posted: 04-Nov-2009 09:08   in response to: BarneyMo in response to: BarneyMo
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As a cyclist I have 2 rear LEDs on my bike, one flashing and one on constant. I'm lead to beleive that the flashing light gets the attention of the driver and the contstant light gives the driver somthing to focus on to guage the distance. On the front I have 2 constant lights and one flashing. Even with all these lights and reflective tape etc on my bike and body I'm still getting drivers trying run me off the road, 4 times in the last 2 days :-( A bus tried twice with in the space of 100 yds on monday morning and a van came close enough for me to hit it my with fist last night.
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