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Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 25-Mar-2009 09:07

Bristol Rugby and other sports clubs in the city have given money to help rehabilitate young offenders.

What do you think?

How much discipline is there in sport these days?

knackeredmum

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 25-Mar-2009 18:12

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Oh look. Yet MORE money being used to support Male sport. Why don't these clubs give a bit more respect to their ladies sides?

There are a lot more obese children andyoung women (and girls who don't do sport because its for boys/not cool) out there than there are young offenders. Girls are pressured at every turn to look a certain way they are not encouraged to do sport as society tells them that there job is to look good to attract boys. This conditioning starts when they are barely out of nappies (why else would they sell padded bra's for 8 year olds) Sport is seen as a macho thing for Tom boys and there are precious few sporting role models for girls. If these big clubs are wanting to do a service to society they should start here. It's about time women were given equal status to men in the sporting arena.. Sexism is illegal but the sporting world don't seem to care

Claude

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 21-Oct-2009 13:31

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You do in fact have a very valid point, I do agree that in most countries, the only sports that do get attention are the ones that are dedicated to men... but unfortunately it's not our fault, there are many sports that woman can participate in, but unfortunately it hasn't picked up, due to...lack of supporters...I mean there is hockey, netball, basketball, tennis and golf, all which women can play...

It would be nice to see one dedicated sport to women only, that also gets so much attention, like Rugby and football.

What sports are you interested in?

knackeredmum

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 21-Oct-2009 17:34

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Claude,
it's a vicious circle. it's not picked up by the media because the standard isn't particularly good or there isn't much support but the standard and support wont improve until the profile of the games are raised and there is money made avaliable. It is appalling that the England ladies football team have to find their own funding for fixtures abroad!

In stark contrast to the uk attitude, in New Zealand and Australia Netball is a high profile sport and people (of both sexes) go down to the pub to watch it. Just like they would for Rugby or we would for mens football.

The main problem is that none of the governing bodies consider womens sports a high priority

I'm not saying that there should be sports for women only - that isn't right either - and I enjoy watching a variety of sports (mainly team games like football, rugby netball, hocky etc, etc) I do like the equestrian sports too as it is the only sport I can think of where men and women compete on an equal footing (not saying that should havppen in football for example but it IS interesting!) and it isn't just about the exercise either. There are a lot of other things that people gain from playing sport.

I think it is very sad in the 21st century that sport seems to be solely about money and not about playing. things have to change , not just for women but for sport in general.

Claude

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 03-Nov-2009 08:19

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I totally understand what you are saying... Sport has become a bit off the topic really... however I must say at most times sports do bring people of all cultures together and unite them as one.

I mean with the Soccer world cup being in SA, people there are surely starting to work together towards making it a success??

Even though I must agree, I would also prefer that all sport sorts should be seen in the same light or at least given more recognition than they are receiving,,, such as Netball, I am not even sure if there is a Netball world cup??? Not that I have a lack on of interest, but unfortunately it could be a lack of marketing or availability for this sport around the world?? It would be a great idea to get something started like that... do you agree??

knackeredmum

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 03-Nov-2009 14:02

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Absolutely Claude. Sport played to a high standard should all be given equal recognition - Regardless of who plays it (with the exception of golf, bowls, motor racing...!!!) I know that this is probably a logistical nightmare but at the very least ANY international tournament with Bristish interest should be shown. I have also always said that the BBC should've put more money into developing a sports channel instead of wasting it on pap like BBC parliamnet and Jonathon Woss's salary!They could use the same channel as BBC 3 or 4 during the day as nothing is broadcast on these until 7pm ish.

Part of the problem with sport is that there is an assumption made by the media and sports governing bodies that people wont be interested in certain sports when the reality is completely different. I watch sport because I am interested not to letch at the sportsmen. and while, I am sure that there are women and men who do this the vast majority of people watch sports because they are interested. Unfortunately until the 'powers that be' wake up to that fact nothing will change.

Bring this back on topic, I'm all for offenders palying sport but I don't think that it should be at the expense of other sports played by law abiding people. It's about time our priorities were sorted out and quite frankly, offenders shoul be at the bottom of that list of priorities

Claude

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 05-Nov-2009 10:24

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I totally agree with you. This of course will be allot better for them as they could know convert all there time and energy towards sports, but why at the expense of other sports?? These teens choose to live there life like that, why do we need to persuade them with sports to do otherwise??

They are still young, they just need some good discipline?? Do you agree??

gerry

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 05-Nov-2009 11:50

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What has happened with sport at school? there is no competedness anymore, at one time schools used to compete for their counties and then go on to bigger things, In some areas playing fields are being sold off for housing.

knackeredmum

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 05-Nov-2009 16:11

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Gerry, you are working on the assumption that schools have sports facilities. Unfortunately many have school fields have been sold off by the LEA's combine that with the fact that competition is now frowned on and the net result is a nation of obese X factor wannabies!

Actually this ties in a little with what Claude is saying. Perhaps if there was more of an opportunity for competitive sports to be played throughout a childs school years then they would have something to interest and occupy them rather than being so bored that they commit crimes. Sport is not some kind of magical cure for societies scumbags. Surely
it is too little too late to offer this when they have offended, sporting projects within the community would be far better as a pre emptive strike.

I also think any rehab should
1) help and benefit the community as well as the offender
2) perhaps in someway be linked to the offence that has been perpetrated.
For example car valeting/sales/mechanics for those involved in car crime
street cleaning/gardening/street care for offences of vandelism within the community
Hospital portering/youth work for those involved in drugs.
Offenders need to come to terms with what they have done, see their victims in real terms and understand the effect of their crimes on the community. If they had something (say a trade or a job skill) that they could be proud of they would be less likly to repeat the offence they commited

Claude

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 06-Nov-2009 09:05

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I agree with you Gerry.

If schools could learn to actually care more about what scholars spend there time on and actually still give them a proper opportunity in playing sports, it could be the solution in proper time spending after school. I mean, with every generation, comes it own problems, but all elders are constantly saying, (when something goes wrong), 'Oh, the youth of today'.

If sports were more competitive, than more scholars would take part, everyone likes a healthy competition, so why not, continue with it??

Knackeredmum:

These are all good points. If they could possibly start to enforce community service, to those offenders, I am sure, that they will learn, there is nothing better than learning the hard way.

I mean, If offenders, get the opportunity to play sports, they would probably not even see that as punishments... what's the point of that. If they feel that the offenders have to much time on there hands, let them do something useful, not relaxation and exercise, that is not the idea of them receiving punishment...do you agree?

knackeredmum

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Re: Sporting chance for offenders
Posted: 06-Nov-2009 14:49

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Hey guys. Have you heard the latest? There is some school (in Kent I think) who wants to stop or cut back on traditional PE in favour of using the Wii instead. Is it me or has the whole world gone mad!