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kev


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Another Stabbing
Posted: 15-Sep-2009 19:55
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I know that People have complained to the Police about some of the problems in this area.There is one lot that hang around Selby rd revving up motorbikes and driving with no silencers ,no helmets and no respect for any one else.They are mixed race kids with a attitude.My relatives are in there late 70s and feel that the Police make noises but don't follow it up.They are to old to move yet would go today given a chance.There has been two fatal stabbings in the same area.The previous guy ran into the local Asian shop covered in blood.People will come out of the woodwork and say the usual cliche.He never hurt a fly, he do any thing for everyone etc etc.Sad fact is the young people have no respect for the old or for property.
knackeredmum

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Re: Another Stabbing
Posted: 15-Sep-2009 20:50   in response to: kev in response to: kev
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Agreed Kev, largely because they are taught more about their 'rights' than they are about respect! not saying we should beat our kids but am I the only one who can see a correlation between a decrease in punishment and discipline and an increase in anti social behaviour and the social decline of our country?
kev


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Re: Another Stabbing
Posted: 16-Sep-2009 20:01   in response to: knackeredmum in response to: knackeredmum
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The police and the Council should act together.Give a problem family just one warning.If they still play up kick them out of the community simple.I would go further and stop wages and benefits until they put in writing that they will control there brats.Most don't like to put things in writing and i think there would be a huge drop in anti social crime.Tagging and Asbo's are not working.These people only understand financial and mental pain.We have created huge area's of a anti social underclass in this Country and this City.In one area the Buses get stoned.Where are the Police, The Parents and community leaders?
Imo


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Re: Another Stabbing
Posted: 16-Sep-2009 21:22   in response to: kev in response to: kev
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I suppose it's especially a problem of the big cities. The smaller the town the better do the people know one another. But in a big city people are quite anonymous, and that decreases the inhibition level to destroy someone else's property. It's like in a war. There people don't hesitate to kill the other person.

But I was grown up in a village and there were also brawls. Also arsons. And some people could be very mean sometimes.

Maybe it's an illusion to hope that people will live without trouble some day. Where people live there will always be problems. Many people have even trouble with their spouses.
kev


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Re: Another Stabbing
Posted: 17-Sep-2009 22:34   in response to: Imo in response to: Imo
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I agree imo, I don't know people in my own street let alone the trouble makers.Big is not always best and the takers in society can blend in with the rest of us.
darren

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Re: Another Stabbing
Posted: 14-Oct-2009 16:43   in response to: kev in response to: kev
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yeah im new to this whole forums thing but you read any paper stab stab stab on every page, watch the news stab stab stab, dont blame the criminals well yeah obviously blame them they did it,
but if policts and the police force got it together there wouldant be much of a problem

ok cells are filling up , then realease the less harmfull thugs like petty drug dealers, shop theifs,
blah blah blah then youll have room for the deamons or transport them to an american high state high security prison and let them get bumbed in there

why would anyone have any sympathy or feelings for theese ruthless murderers, there wasting our lifes
time, tax, tv time, air time, paper and ink, and taking lives for know reason, let them burn in hell,

polatics made us lots of promises and now there watching us sink down the river, ..............

money money money money money, thats all its about
knackeredmum

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Re: Another Stabbing
Posted: 14-Oct-2009 22:36   in response to: darren in response to: darren
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Agree with some of what you say Darren However If I was in charge I would leave the petty crims where they were and find other forms of punishment for the council tax defaulters, parents of truants, litter louts etc that the courts treat with more contempt than the hardened thugs.

I would put an end to early release for ALL offences involving violence as well as making sentences tougher. I would introduce an attempted murder charge for idiots who knowingly drink drive then crash with people in their cars (if they kill someone then it would be murder!)

I would reintroduce hard labour for serious crimes and repeat offenders and maybe a little public humiliation thrown in for good measure too! Oh and the first thing I would do is abolish the human rights treaty and come up with a common sense British version that doesn't favour society's scum!

What we need is a government made up of the people that live in the real world not these dumb politicians and judges who wouldn't know common sense and justice if they came up and slapped them in the face!!

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